Babylon 5 posts by JMS for Feb, 1992 This file includes a compilation of posts on GEnie by J. Michael Straczynski in the Babylon 5 topic. The posts are copyright by JMS (and compilation copyright is by GEnie). ************ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 230 Sat Feb 01, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 16:26 EST Interesting stuff on the tech side, much to consider. I remain inclined toward the solar collectors for several reasons: 1) They look boss. 2) The first thing you have to learn in space is to not over-complicate things. The sun is a constant, and unless it goes nova (in which case anything else is irrelevant now anyway), it's a relatively safe bet for power. Set it up and forget it. What matters is that it can do the job. 3) Good SF not only looks to the future, but tries to send a message for the present as well. And if we can emphasize this issue, all the better. Trying to decide which new piece of info to let go now. Hmm...it'll either be B5's second in command, or one of the ambassadors. Hmm.... jms (P.S. And yes, I'm also inclined toward showing space silent. There are ways of doing it and still making it dramatic.) ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 235 Sat Feb 01, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 22:01 EST Well, then, maybe I'll do both. A little shorter than the last one (which was SUPPOSED to be short itself, but once I get typing, I lose all perspective). As stated, Commander Jeffrey Sinclair is the titular head of BABYLON 5. His concerns, though, tend to be more broad in scope...acting as the informal representative of the Earth Alliance, dealing with questions of policy and procedure, and keeping an eye on the Ambassadors. As a result, the day-to-day operations of the station are handled by Vice- Commander Laurel Takashima. (In case Sinclair is incapicated or off-station, Laurel is also empowered to take his place on the Council and speak for the TopE.A. Laurel can usually be found in the B5 Command and Control Room (also referred to as the Observation Dome), where ships are coming and going, keeping an eye on who's going where. All departments report directly to her, and she is answerable only to Sinclair and Earth Central. If, as happens early on in "The Gathering," a ship's crew refuses to submit to a weapons search (a requirement for coming aboard B5), she has the authority to lock them out. (To one complaining ambassador, she stands firm on this, though noting, "I'll be happy to send them a fruit basket if it'll make you feel any better. But other than that, they can sit out there for the next solar year for all I care.") She has considerable interaction with the ambassadors and others coming aboard the station. All day-to-day operations are very much her purview. Laurel is a rarity among the B5 crew, in that she is one of the few actually born on Earth. (Sinclair was born on the Mars colony, for instance.) Thus, she has strong roots on Homeworld, which gives her a perspective that's quite important at times. She's tough, and smart, and resourceful (conning one of the hydroponics guys into setting aside a couple of planters on the QT to grow coffee beans...very much against policy, but if you report her, you can't have any). She has a long-standing relationship with an off-world mapper who works for the E.A., but is gone quite a lot of the time. She can also take care of herself physically QUITE well. On the other end of the spectrum is Ambassador Londo Mollari, of the Centauri Republic. Londo is the most human of all the various ambassadors, and there's some speculation that we might be a long forgotten outpost of the Republic. Of course, the only ones MAKING that assertion are Londo's people, who have much to gain in trying to convince others of that. For a thousand years, the Centauri Republic was a force to be reckoned with. Like the English empire once upon a time, it held hundreds of planets in its control. It was a great military power. But slowly, as can happen, they grew content, and lazy, and gradually their own empire began to slip between their fingers. A world deciding to go rogue was troublesome, to be sure, but it's SO far away, and it's SUCH a bother to go take care of it, when we can easily get the same things from other places...let them go. They'll come crawling back sooner or later. As a result, they are now down to a Republic that consists of barely a dozen systems and thirty worlds. It was, interestingly enough, the Centauri Republic that was Earth's first contact with another major government. The CR was well in advance of Earth science, and we all considered them a terrible power...an illusion they hardly tried to set right. Trade agreements were set up, and we gained an ASTONISHING amount of technical know-how in a very short time, letting us leap- frog a hundred years of progress in a single year. They were most curious to get cultural stuff in return...music, art, philosophy, literature..."native" trinkets that could be resold for more money back on homeworld. In the thirty or forty years since then, however, we've found out the truth, that the CR is really on its last legs. And we've taken the technology we've gotten and perfected it, and now the Earth Alliance is fast becoming one of the dominant forces of this time. And the Centauri Republic is trying to attach itself to us the way a ramora attaches itself to a shark...for preservation, in this case.) Laurel can usually be found in the B5 Command and Control Room (also referred to as the Observation Dome), where ships are coming and going, keeping an eye on who's going where. All departments report directly to her, and she is answerable only to Sinclair and Earth Central. If, as happens early on in "The Gathering," a ship's crew refuses to submit to a weapons search (a requirement for coming aboard B5), she has the authority to lock them out. (To one complaining ambassador, she stands firm on this, though noting, "I'll be happy to send them a fruit basket if it'll make you feel any better. But other than that, they can sit out there for the next solar year for all I care.") She has considerable interaction with the ambassadors and others coming aboard the station. All day-to-day operations are very much her purview. Laurel is a rarity among the B5 crew, in that she is one of the few actually born on Earth. (Sinclair was born on the Mars colony, for instance.) Thus, she has strong roots on Homeworld, which gives her a perspective that's quite important at times. She's tough, and smart, and resourceful (conning one of the hydroponics guys into setting aside a couple of planters on the QT to grow coffee beans...very much against policy, but if you report her, you can't have any). She has a long-standing relationship with an off-world mapper who works for the E.A., but is gone quite a lot of the time. She can also take care of herself physically QUITE well. On the other end of the spectrum is Ambassador Londo Mollari, of the Centauri Republic. Londo is the most human of all the various ambassadors, and there's some speculation that we might be a long forgotten outpost of the Republic. Of course, the only ones MAKING that assertion are Londo's people, who have much to gain in trying to convince others of that. For a thousand years, the Centauri Republic was a force to be reckoned with. Like the English empire once upon a time, it held hundreds of planets in its control. It was a great military power. But slowly, as can happen, they grew content, and lazy, and gradually their own empire began to slip between their fingers. A world deciding to go rogue was troublesome, to be sure, but it's SO far away, and it's SUCH a bother to go take care of it, when we can easily get the same things from other places...let them go. They'll come crawling back sooner or later. As a result, they are now down to a Republic that consists of barely a dozen systems and thirty worlds. It was, interestingly enough, the Centauri Republic that was Earth's first contact with another major government. The CR was well in advance of Earth science, and we all considered them a terrible power...an illusion they hardly tried to set right. Trade agreements were set up, and we gained an ASTONISHING amount of technical know-how in a very short time, letting us leap- frog a hundred years of progress in a single year. They were most curious to get cultural stuff in return...music, art, philosophy, literature..."native" trinkets that could be resold for more money back on homeworld. In the thirty or forty years since then, however, we've found out the truth, that the CR is really on its last legs. And we've taken the technology we've gotten and perfected it, and now the Earth Alliance is fast becoming one of the dominant forces of this time. And the Centauri Republic is trying to attach itself to us the way a ramora attaches itself to a shark...for preservation, in this case. They are governed by an emperor, and the government works mainly through personal and family influence. It's a very indulgent society, and Londo reflects that. Overweight, prone to gambling constantly (null-pool is his favorite), and fond of women and drinks, he understands his role and doesn't try to push it. Like his Republic, he subsists on old stories and tales of former glory, remarking -- one night, when drunk -- "my god, we've become a tourist attraction. See the Great Fallen Centauri Republic, open nine to five...Earth Time." He is, by turns, a comic figure, and a tragic figure. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 247 Sun Feb 02, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 03:57 EST Those stations that agreed to carry B5 early on are all still carrying the program, plus a bunch of other stations that've been lined up subsequent to NATPE. A full list will be appended soonest. The speculated-upon similarity to Japan was not unintentional. Regarding sub-light speeds...we're working that out with the tech crew. Actually, EVERYONE is getting in on that aspect. One design for a B5 defensive ship (kept in a high-security hangar concealed within the station just in case they might ever be needed...and they will...) runs like this...and I emphasize this was just his speculation, but it's kinda cool, whether or not it actuall gets used. (It also came with the designer's sketch of the ship.) The ship is the Northrodyne C31-03 "Patriot," suited for both deep space and atmospheric flight. POWERPLANT: 1 Messerschmitt Ram-scram 23,000 kg thrust turbo 2 Commonwealth hyperspace ion-warp drives 24 Jumo 500 kg C02 thrusters PERFORMANCE max speed 10.75 C.P.H. (Light speed per hour) stall speed minimum 400 K.P.H. on foils alone at 1 Earth atmosphere sea level Can achieve full-hover using Bokelman anti-grav Max range fully loaded: 1200 parsecs WEIGHT: Standard earth gravity: unloaded, 35,000 kg; loaded, 114,000 kg DIMENSION: Length: 37 meters; Span: 43 meters; Height at max diameter: 8.43 meters ARMAMENT: 8 antimatter lasers 18 "Blackhole" missiles with 1.5 megaton warheads 2 explosive projectile 85mm ruger spiral-feed cannons 4 "Reagan" class dumb-fire missiles 3 pulsed accellerator long-range missiles CREW: 2, plus back-up crew for long-distance missions. Again, that may not end up being what's actually used in the show, but it's one of our speculations by some of the tech people. Kinda fun. One other ship that's been designed is the Blohm Und Voss-IBM BV142 V493 "Nervenklau" class interceptor with ram-fusion turbos. (It's a smaller ship than the "Patriot" class, made for speed and bite.) Are we having fun, or what? jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 262 Sun Feb 02, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 17:37 EST Whew, that's a lot of comments. Let me try and deal with the major issues rather than point-by-point. Re: sound in space...there's more than one way of doing that, and I think I have an idea that will let me satisfy BOTH camps. I won't know if it actually *works* until we get into a sound room with footage on screen, but there may be a third alternative. Re: the TNG "forehead" problem...here's what I think is a major point of distinction between the two shows. TNG often becomes the Alien Of The Week show. If you're going to have a guy come through the show just once, you tend not to spend an awful lot of time on the prosthetics/appliances. On a TV production schedule, there simply isn't that kind of time. So you compromise, and come up with something that'll suffice...and the easiest thing to do is to effect the area you will see most on the screen, the face or forehead. (You could, I suppose, provide flippers instead of feet, but how often would you see them in a shot?) One of the interesting things about B5 is that, with some exceptions from time to time, we'll be drawing most of our players from one or more of the five different groups (four alien, one human). So we know, in advance, that we're going to be using the same "look" many times during a given season. Which means that we can spend a lot of time up front in designing more elaborate appliances or prostheses since we'll be using them more often, thus amortizing the cost and time and effort. Londo is the most human of the bunch. They get progressively more unusual as we go along. When we do feature someone not from one of the major groups, we want to know about it well enough in advance that we can do it up right. John Iacovelli, our production designer (from HONEY, I SHRUNK THE KIDS) would love to experiment with some insectoid designs, with limbs that move in the opposite way they're supposed to...to play with size in other aliens, having some *substantially* taller or smaller than Earth-norm. And from time to time, there will be some life-forms that you'll just see out of the corner of your eye that'll be quite different. You see, in TNG, if you have something REALLY bizarre on screen, you more or less have to justify why it's there, and what it's doing there, and thus it becomes a major plot point, and thus it has to be played by a human actor, which brings you right back to the forehead problem. But on B5, *anything* can pass through. Which gives us latitude to do things with mechanicals and high-tech puppeteering. (Some of our guys have come over from the Henson Creature Shop, with some *amazing* ideas.) Once again, it all comes down to *advance planning*. Which has always in my view been the one aspect lacking in 99% of all TV SF series. This show, as reported, has taken us 4 years to get going, and believe me when I say that that time has NOT been spent just sitting around. Re: what I learned on my trips to conventions and appearing on WHY CAN'T THEY GET IT RIGHT? panels...what I came away with was a general sense of frustration from people who felt that in most cases, a show ends up being either good SF and bad television, or good TV but bad SF, and why can't you mix the two? They pointed to the lack of character conflict in TNG, noting (correctly) that conflict is the core of ANY drama. They wondered -- repeatedly -- why it is that every time a decent concept comes along, someone has to hobble it with kids or cute robots. It was just a general sense of frustration that while SF in print (and to SOME extent films) has grown up into adulthood, TV SF was still perceived AND EXECUTED as though for kids, or without the grittiness or maturity of the work you'd associate with Gibson or Sterling or Clarke. ST was, by and large, an anomaly in that it treated SF with a modicum of respect. There's not been much of that, the audience tended to feel. Which made me all the more determined to try and bring SF into the mainstream not by compromising the SF, but by -- as it were -- bringing the mountain to Mohammed by incorporating elements that mainstream vieewers have come to expect from non-SF series: adult characters with adult relationships, sexual and otherwise; interpersonal conflict; marriages and divorces and pregnancies and all the other elements that are the common coin of our shared humanity. People who live in a world that, unlike the antiseptic Enterprise, requires courage and struggle and hope and joy and effort, exactly as those elements are required in our own lives. As I think I stated once before LONG uptopic...my model on this is, in a way, DRAGNET and HILL STREET BLUES. There was a time in the TV industry when cop shows were viewed the same way SF shows are viewed now: of interest only to people into police procedurals and mysteries, which was considered a very small proportion of the audience. The along came DRAGNET, which for the first time showed cops going on dates, having divorces, barbeques, fights...and that show went through the roof because it fleshed out the characters (for that time...yes, they're stiff and cardboard now, but at that time they were revolutionary, and if you check your TV history, you will find that DRAGNET is still considered the most successful cop show ever produced for TV). HILL STREET BLUES was the final culmination of that process, a model from which came shows like LA LAW and ST. ELSEWHERE and others. There is absolutely NO reason on earth why that same process cannot apply to SF. And that is what we are pledged to do on this show. I expect either to succeed -- astonishingly -- or fail, just as astonishingly. But there won't be a middle ground. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 275 Mon Feb 03, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 01:11 EST Two quickies...on the tech of the "Patriot" ship...please, once again, bear in mind that that was passed along mainly for the fun of it. The designer who came up with it isn't a scientist, and was engaging in a bit of "rubber science." The main thought there was the idea of a range of weaponry, most of it extensions of either modern stuff (projectile weapons) and futuristic stuff. BeLIEVE me, anything we finally come up with -- and it may bear no resemblance to the ship discussed -- will go firmly through the hands of the tech people who'll check and double-check for this stuff. As to keeping around Laurel Takashima...believe me, I have every intention of doing so. The reason Pilot was killed off in C.P. was due to the actress's desire to take on some film roles and leave the show. So I decided, "Okay, if we're going to lose a character, let's not wimp out and have her transferred, let's kill her, but kill her in a dramatic way that changes not only the characters, but the nature of the show itself." Which is why, when she went, she took the whole base of operations of our main characters with her. (Season Two would've been completely different from season one, with our guys on the run, no permanent base of operations.) The problem with episodic series is that, after a while, you know what the parameters are. You know THIS character won't ever be killed, and THAT base has got to remain, and THIS can't change. And you fall into a habit and into regular expectations. I *love* to blow up those sorts of expectations. Find the one thing that NO ONE thinks you're ever going to do in your show...and do it. It keeps EVERYBODY on their toes. If you can tune in and never know for sure what's going to happen, knowing that everyone and everything is fair game, it makes the tension in the show far more real. The reaction when Pilot/Jennifer Chase was killed off was astonishing...and when the base was destroyed with her. I was at a con when it was shown, and one person finally broke the stunned silence and said, "Jesus, they're not kidding around, this IS a war." Which was exactly the right response. How this will affect B5...wait and see. And here's a little something to consider. Some have noted the location thing...speculated on other aspects of the show...but much of what you need to know about what will eventually happen in the course of the B5 story arc is already available to you. In any decent desk encyclopedia. What, you thought I pulled the name Babylon out of a hat? Let's just say that there are going to be some interesting historical parallels.... jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 276 Mon Feb 03, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 01:17 EST Quick afterthought...considerable difference, isn't there, in the discussion *here*, as opposed to the DS9 topic? Personally, I find it *very* rewarding. Oh, and I forgot one thing about Londo. He has a wife, his third, actually, on Centauri Prime, and seven kids. And he would sooner hurl himself into the sun than go anywhere near ANY of them. jms And then on the other hand, sometimes the BIGGEST surprises require the most in planning...Hiroshima, Pearl Harbor and Normandy Beach being good examples.... jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 301 Tue Feb 04, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 02:54 EST nic: Thank you. You have expressed your opinion. I have expressed mine. I will continue to express my opinion, and you will continue to express your opinion. If it makes you uncomfortable, you may want to Per this topic. This is after all a matter of some importance to me, and you have no conception of the trauma visited upon me by the events subsequent to December 1992. Alas, I am not a vulcan, and can feel, and those feelings come out through this topic, which is, in a way, an ongoing letter or conversation about what's happening right now with the B5 topic. If you don't like it, that's unfortunate, but there's nothing I can do about that short of restricting my beliefs, and being less then honest in my postings here, and I won't do that. (And by the way...if B5 is on a lineal descent from TNG, then TNG is on a lineal descent from FORBIDDEN PLANET. And just FYI, the genesis in my notes for B5 extends to 1986 and 1987, *before* TNG went on the air.) Your estimation of the value of my work -- worth a nickel or otherwise -- is interesting but ultimately irrelevant. Apparently you are solidly in TNG's camp. That is fine, and good, and I have no quarrel with that. SF television needs every possible support in order to survive. That you may not want to hear something you don't like is rather beyond my control; life is full of things we don't like to or want to hear. Your statement that what's been said here is only "inflammatory BS" is, in my view, insulting. Something that I don't want to hear...because I know the situation from the inside. You do not. Period. If being a TNG fan means that you must attack people, then that is most unfortunate...since the very philosophy of IDIC means Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. That includes the things you don't want to hear. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 313 Tue Feb 04, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 14:13 EST nic, you persist in this notion that what's been said here is unsubstantiated. Which parts? That B5 has been in development for years is a matter of public record. (In fact, being the kinda hairpin I am, I've slipped references to it all over the place...Soaron, if you're reading this, check the episode of CAPTAIN POWER where Tank faces off with a guy from the same genetic engineering facility as himself and note the name of the center...check my novel OTHERSYDE where I slipped in a quick reference to B5 being on the air that night...plus the copies on file at the Guild and at Warners and everywhere else.) When was B5 announced? Check the trades. November 21st, several articles appeared with the info. When was DS9 developed? That, too, is a matter of both record and other information. Was B5 brought to Paramount? Yes, it was, and I have the correspondence to prove it. Were some of the development people at Paramount who read the B5 screenplay and saw the series treatment and bible also involved in the DS9 development? It seems that this is indeed the case. That's not unsubstantiated "bs" as you say, and I really don't care what you think on that subject. All of that is a matter of record. Were Pillar and Berman aware of B5 at any time? No. Of that I am also confident. The only question in my mind is to what degree did the development people steer them? One scenario is that they did not steer them at ALL...but knowing of B5, and knowing how swell it would be if they could co-opt B5, if Pillar and Berman came up with a space station on their own, they would likely say nothing, even though they might be viewed as being under a moral obligation to say something. Another scenario is that they gave direction to the creative folks without telling them the origin of that direction. There are several ways of dealing with this. One is to launch a major suit with full powers of discovery. The result is that DS9 gets tied up for months, maybe even years in litigation, and maybe the show doesn't go forward. It also means hundreds of thousands of dollars spent by Warners and me and others pursuing this...not to mention the sense of ill will that will fly back and forth. And while all options are still open, the general concensus for now seems to be to live and let live. (I assume you want to see DS9, do you not? If you'd like me to take this out of the realm of discussion and into the courts, there's a better than even chance that we could kill it -- is that what you want?) We are content to try and let the market decide which is the better program...or allow both to continue on and on indefinitely, in the hope that they will be sufficiently different that both can succeed. There is nothing new in this information, I have posted EXACTLY the same in a public message to Mike Okuda in 21/21. That we have decided -- for the best interests of all -- for the time being to take a mature, "let's move forward" approach does not mean that I have to pretend nothing happened. Or shut my mouth about it. If there is any (to use your term) winking and nudging going on, it's on the level of "Okay, YOU (Paramount) know what happened, and *I* know what happened, but let's try to be grownup about it for now," though I must say that the shapechanging thing nearly tipped me back over the edge again. If there are no more major similarities that crop up in the next few weeks or months, with luck we can continue that way. I've always believed that the best solution to any problem is being forthright. I felt it proper for people to see the development process here, and be aware of what the actual events were, and let them reach their own conclusions. And, in part, this is to insure a complete record. Because one probable result of silence is that B5 gets broadcast to an audience which might be unaware of it, as movies tend to slip past more readily than series. Then DS9 airs as a series. Then B5 airs as a series...and everybody thinks we ripped off DS9. Maybe you don't think it's important to establish which was here first. I do. In the forty-plus years that television has been around, no one has done a series on a space station/port of call. Now suddenly we have two within two months of each other being announced. So what do you want, nic? Do you want me to launch every legal missile I've got in an effort to kill DS9? Because that's the only other alternative that I've got to just talking about it...and on the question of unsubstantiated bs, frankly, you're off base and I still find that insulting. B5 has a paper trail four years long. And unless you have access to that -- as I do -- please refrain from spouting off about things you don't know. Despite very strong feelings about this situation, I'm trying to be mature about all this. Comments like yours just tempt me to say, "Okay, screw it, you want substantiation? Let's party, let's get in the lawyers." This is the topic for discussion of B5. In all its aspects. If you find the conversation uncomfortable...there are other topics for you to explore. Meanwhile, please try and refrain from characterizing my post as "bs". You can't get any closer to the inside scoop on something like this than from the creator/executive producer/writer. I have adopted a live and let live attitude re: DS9. I will try and adopt one toward you. Please don't cause me to regret either decision. End of sermon. Finally, to Ellen's request re: prior credits...I've worked in TV for about ten years now...first in animation, on such programs as THE REAL GHOSTBUSTERS, to live-action SF such as CAPTAIN POWER, and I was primary writer and story editor on the syndicated TWILIGHT ZONE. I was writer and story editor on JAKE AND THE FATMAN (or as we called it, THE LAME AND THE HALT), and am currently on M,SW as writer/producer. I adapted THE STRANGE CASE OF DR. JEKYLL AND MR. HYDE for Showtime (which received both Ace and Writers Guild Award nominations for writing), wrote a new "V" miniseries which will not be filmed for budgetary considerations, recently finished a SF/adventure/comedy screenplay for Ivan Reitman, and have published two novels and one anthology and numerous short stories. There's more beyond that, but those are some of the highlights. Sorry to have gone on so long with this. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 319 Tue Feb 04, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 19:44 EST But only with a condom. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 329 Tue Feb 04, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 23:05 EST Are there Quayle-class dumbfire missiles? Probably. But those are for export only.... And yes, to a question uptopic, that was me at the Brighton WorldCon doing a presentation on TRGBs and CP. That was actually a lot of fun. I still chuckle at some of the astonished reactions to "The Collect Call of Cthulhu".... jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 338 Wed Feb 05, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 01:34 EST Expect fewer posts from me over the next few days or so...I have to finish the current draft of "The Gathering" by Friday (Monday latest) so we can start serious prep. And just FYI...watch for news items next week, between Wednesday and Friday. There's going to be a big press conference in NY with the Big Guns from the studio and the new network. Don't know at this point if I'll be there or not, it depends on my time here and imminent deadlines. Things are starting to heat up. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 356 Thu Feb 06, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 02:56 EST Taking a brief break (only 22 more pages to go....): What I have in mind is kind of a synthesis of the two approaches to storytelling in TV. Each episode is crafted such that it can stand on its own. But the totality of each episode adds up over time into a story arc of its own. The best way to think of it, I've found, is the novel comparison. Each year of the series (should this last that long) is one "chapter" in the story. (The 2-hour movie is basically a prologue.) As a novel writer, I know that major plot changes must take place at the end of each chapter. And that's how the series will be structured. For instance, and let me state unequivocally that THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE USED, BOYS AND GIRLS, THIS IS FOR ILLUSTRATION PURPOSES ***ONLY***, Year/Chapter One grounds us in the series and characters with minimal changes, but we begin layering in aspects of certain mysteries that we want to develop further. Year/Chapter Two takes that assumption and turns it around as we suddenly discover that, say, two governments we THOUGHT were deadly enemies are in fact allies, and suddenly everything's up for grabs. Year/Chapter Three ups the ante with the threat of, or possibly the reality of war...and the death of one major character. By now, one character we thought was a minor character has suddenly become a MAJOR character...and the Major Character from before is undergoing significant changes a la Joseph Campbell. And so on. That's the *kind* of thing you can do with a show that presents individual stories but which evolves over time into something unusual. And, of course, there's all that swooshing to deal with.... ~~~~~~~~~ jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 376 Fri Feb 07, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 02:58 EST I hope to post a full list of stations in the next 7-10 days. Re: the sound-in-space question...like I said, I think I can satisfy both camps. I won't know for sure until I get some footage and can get into a sound room and start playing around with some ideas, but I *think* it'll work. Ten pages to go.... jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 384 Fri Feb 07, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 18:18 EST it around as we suddenly discover that, say, two governments we THOUGHT were deadly enemies are in fact allies, and suddenly everything's up for grabs. Year/Chapter Three ups the ante with the threat of, or possibly the reality of war...and the death of one major character. By now, one character we thought was a minor character has suddenly become a MAJOR character...and the Major Character from before is undergoing significant changes a la Joseph Campbell. And so on. That's the *kind* of thing you can do with a show that presents individual stories but which evolves over time into something unusual. And, of course, there's all that swooshing to deal with.... ~~~~~~~~~ jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 376 Fri Feb 07, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 02:58 EST I hope to post a full list of stations in the next 7-10 days. Re: the sound-in-space question...like I said, I think I can satisfy both camps. I won't know for sure until I get some footage and can get into a sound room and start playing around with some ideas, but I *think* it'll work. Ten pages to go.... jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 384 Fri Feb 07, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 18:18 EST For those who were asking about the neeperish aspects of the show.... BABYLON 5 will utilize as much state of the art EFX as possible. It will combine mattes, live-action, miniatures and computer graphics imagery in the Toaster environment using its video frame grabbing capability. There will be three massive Amiga workstations with multi- gigabyte capability, rendering simultaneously via an Ethernet network, as well as a Macintosh II, which will run Adope Photoshop for complex texture map creation. The Lightwave 3D software program will also be used. The result will be sophisticated texture maps, and realistic looking ships and objects with streaking, tinting and defects. All objects rendered will maintain an equal 1:1 ratio even between objects of differing size and mass and speed. The beauty pass and the matte pass will both be rendered in the Toaster/Lightwave environment, then combined with live action via a Quantel Harry (whatever the hell THAT is). The result will be such capabilities as that of moving from 50 kilometers away from B5 to within 10 yards, all in one shot -- which would be impossible using models. I understand *most* of what I've just typed here. Our tech guys provided me with this. I'm now going to lay down for a while.... jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 393 Sat Feb 08, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 00:05 EST There's some talk of novelizing the V 2-hour miniseries script, and there's a leading SF writer interested in the job, but right now it's ONLY talk, and I can't comment further. As for cons in the northeast, yes, there are some plans for that, but nothing yet concrete enough to announce here. Will advise. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 396 Sat Feb 08, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 04:20 EST By that do you mean who is the casting director, who makes recommendations, or the ones who actually *decide*? If the former, we haven't settled on a specific person yet, though we have several to choose from. If the latter, that would be me and my co-exec producer. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 402 Sun Feb 09, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 00:58 EST David: thanks! That'll help. Samuel: (sly smile) Then you may have some idea of the direction I have in mind. We're gonna have fun, fun, fun. Well, tonight I typed FADE OUT on "The Gathering" screenplay, which after being revised SIGNIFICANTLY to catch up on some changing technologies and some improvements in my own writing since I originally wrote it is in many ways a whole new script. The story is essentially the same, but the characters have grown considerably, there's more humor in places, more action in other places...it's way cool. (And I dropped the idea, in my original screenplay, of a character who's an actual shape-changer because a) I found a better way of handling a particular plot point, and b) when Warner Bros. did the focus group study on B5, which at that point included the shape-changer, the UNIFORM reaction from the group -- especially now, after the Michael Jackson shape- changing, and that technology becoming SO commonplace -- was that it was a dumbness, and why would ANYONE want to do that since it's been done so much now, especially in TERMINATOR 2? (I agree. They're right. Why would any show want to include a shape- changer on a regular basis now that the technology has been SO over-exposed? Heh, heh....) Anyway: I'm very pleased with the script. It's a little wordy in places - - I always over-write -- and at 113 pages it'll have to be cut back a little for time, given the requirements of TV, but overall I'm happy with it. It goes in to the studio on Monday. I'll probably keep revising right through shooting, as new ideas come to me, though it'll all have to be character stuff; once the script's in, the effects stuff will have to be locked down in order to get it done in time. Got it done just in time, too...the carpal tunnel syndrome is starting to flare up again, I think I'm falling prey to the flu that's going around, and I have to start the next batch of M,SW scripts this coming week, as well as finish (AT LAST) the changes to the writing book, long overdue. And next week, finally, I get my new computer system which should really help my output climb out of the doldrums.... jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 405 Sun Feb 09, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 01:25 EST Make *A* backup? Izz you craaaaaazy? Three at least! Mentioning Amiga reminds me...did I mention that it looks like we'll be featured in an article in COMPUTE? Also, POST magazine (which is all about post-production in TV) started off doing an article about how they do these neat effects in A Certain Other SF Show. Then they backtracked, heard about B5. Talked to our guys. And now the slant seems to be, "Hey, why can't a certain other show do EFX like B5 is gonna do? Huh? Howcum?" I have nothing to do with this, folks. Ain't feeding nothing, ain't encouraging nothing, I only just heard about it myself. There's *supposedly* an article for STARLOG in the works, but I've not heard much lately on that score. As additional stories start coming out, I'll advise. Meanwhile, a request. This coming Thursday/Friday there should be a fair amount of news coverage regarding the Warners Consortium and thed -- make that THE -- shows they'll be doing, including B5. If you come across any of these couldja let me know? We haven't got a clipping service yet. Every person who sends me an article in which B5 is mentioned will get a FREE transparent sticker with the *new* B5 logo in living color. (Obviously, this only applies to the first of any one paper that arrives...ten zillion copies of the DETROIT FREE PRESS ain't gonna do it.) Put it in your window, on your car...baffle and dazzle (or daffle and bazzle) your friends! Make it a conversation piece! A quick and easy icebreaker at bars, where it will help you pick up babes! (Or guys.) Looking into the B5 patches and t-shirts, btw. Will announce when we've made a decision. (Translation: when either WB or Me kicks loose some dough.) jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 408 Sun Feb 09, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 03:38 EST Luis: thanks, actually I get the major papers -- AP, UPI, Reuters, and others -- via That Other CIStem. My main interest is in any local papers that might pick up on the story. Ratz: If I were prudent, I would never have gotten into teevee. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 416 Sun Feb 09, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 16:54 EST Haven't checked out that keyboard yet, but may look into it. Definitely meant original articles, not wire-copy relays. If you find one, drop me a note in E-mail and I'll send along the address. I'd post it here, but the address will vary depending on where I can be reached at any given time. As for the computer...it's a custom job and will arrive already set up, so there won't be nearly the same level of tinkering going on, though there will be some of that inevitably. Looks like I've definitely been blindsided by the flu. Usually I'm pretty immune, but the workload recently, and not much sleep, has probably cut down the defenses. Taking it easy today, just doing the B5 revisions a little at a time (meaning cuts and trims and the like) in preparation for delivery tomorrow. Hmmm....I began this message with something specific in mind that I wanted to mention...and it just fell out of my head and rolled under the desk. Must be time for sudafed.... jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 422 Mon Feb 10, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 00:36 EST Finished with the final cuts/revisions. Hah! Done! To answer Drumhead's question above...here is our Official Status: We *do* have a go on the series, contingent upon only one thing: bringing the 2- hour movie in on budget. The plan was to approve 3 series for the consortium. TIME TRAX and the new KUNG FU, being more easily grasped and not as EFX oriented, were given Go's for series. When we showed them what we had in mind, they just didn't believe that we could do it. My philosophy has always been the same: let me put my money where my mouth is. We'll do the movie, and prove our point. When that's done, we get the full pickup. The ratings, it turns out, aren't even that important since, because it's a new consortium, they know that EVERYTHING they put on is going to be low- rated, just as Fox was in the beginning. As one exec put it, "You have a Go for series if you're on budget and in focus." We can do both. Which is why Warners has decided (as will be announced formally next week) to make BABYLON 5 their *flagship* program, the first program to be broadcast via the consortium. B5, "The Gathering," will air late November (the 17th), months ahead of everything else. In a meeting at Warners Friday afternoon, plans are already being put into effect regarding locking down the cast for the series, pattern budgets, and other things that you don't even BEGIN to consider until you're approved for series. Are we *officially* approved for the movie? Yes. Are we *unofficially* approved for the series? Yes. It's a question of what you can announce, when, and our showing what we can do. BABYLON 5 was the *only* program that every single member station in the consortium was able to agree that they wanted as a series, the other two coming with some dissension. There will be a series. Count on it. Which is why all the WB publicity material does not describe "The Gathering" as a pilot, rather as a "debut." The difference is substantial. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 425 Mon Feb 10, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 04:53 EST Save the wahoos for a while. We still have to make the movie. jm(one crisis at a time)s ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 429 Mon Feb 10, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 20:20 EST I don't think they've yet finalized what it's going to be called, the working name is the Warner Bros. Consortium...whether that in time becomes the Warners Network is anybody's guess. Nope. Wasn't at Woodstock. But often I'm as confused as though I had been. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 433 Tue Feb 11, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 02:43 EST No, Arne, that was my evil twin Sparky. Mike: yes, it *is* a new network, like Fox, so you're now officially very surprised. The thing will go on line, as did Fox, with one night of NEW programs per week...in this case, Tuesday nights. The plan then is to add one new night per year, again as Fox did. This means that programs will air at the same times across the country, same as Fox. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 443 Tue Feb 11, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 16:04 EST I'm saddened. I'd only corresponded with Eric here a few times, but he seemed always to be enthusiastic and friendly and cordial. It's a double shame when decent people like Eric leave us, and creeps like Reagan go on, and on, and on like some sort of demented Energizer bunny. Very sad. jms (Yes, we do have a NYC station, but the list's at home.) ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 155 Wed Feb 12, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 13:37 EST Brook...he'd mentioned Conduit to me, but hadn't yet gotten around to sending along anything specific. Would still be interested in taking a look and seeing what can be done. Send me the info via Universal. If you don't have the address, let me know and I'll send it along email. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 167 Thu Feb 13, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 14:12 EST Well, actually, on reflection, there's no reason why I can't give my office address here. That's ME, at MURDER, SHE WROTE, Universal Studios, 100 Universal City Plaza, Building 422, Room 203, Universal City, CA 91608. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 173 Fri Feb 14, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 15:11 EST Well, the big news took several forms, and I suppose I should've clarified that the news was more news to folks not on this system. In large part, it referred to the big conference this week in NYC held to formally announce that B5 and other Warners/Consortium projects are now going into full- fledged production, and to formally announce the air date of B5 "The Gathering," of November 17th. (There's also some growing pressure to get the series to follow up and running a little quicker than we'd anticipated...mainly because it becomes problematic to hold actors for too long on option.) Good thought on the guns/energy weapons. I want weapons of that sort to have a REALLY lethal look and sound and feel. I liked the heft of the guns in ALIENS, for instance. I'm tentatively calling the guns PPGs, for Phased Plasma Guns, but that may change. Nasty suckers, but you have to be careful, since you're in an enclosed space. Power supply on my current computer at home blew last night, so I have to get another one, and that puts me back on some stuff. (Logging on via another computer at work.) Pain in the butt. Ah, well. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 217 Wed Feb 19, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 15:08 EST YAAAGGHHH! (There, I feel much better now...it's like holding one's breath for a long time.) The home computer is still out, and I'm thus logging on from work. (Stayed home all day Tuesday for the power unit to come in FedEx, and it didn't.) Some quickies while I'm here: 1) Yes, we *do* have more stations on line, though alas I've left the list at home. I know we've added Philadelphia and Detroit and Atlanta and a bunch of others, but which ones in particular will have to wait until I can grab the list from home and bring it here, or get my home computer on-line with GEnie again. (I don't know what the problem was, except that the internal modem on my Zeos couldn't get past the U#: request without giving me a No Carrier response, even *with* the right protocols, parities and the rest.) 2) GOOD thoughts about the weapons. I *like* the thunderclap idea. Will pass this on to the tech boys. 3) Regarding using one or two ST actors on the show...for starters, we're not talking about regular parts. One or two guest spots in a year or so. And let us all remember that an actor's an actor, and it seems a shame to waste good actors becaues they've gotten typecast from another series. That's been one of the injustices to come out of ST's success, so many good actors found it hard to get work afterward. (If you haven't seen George Takai in PRISONERS OF THE SUN, you've missed something really wonderful.) In addition...this is kind of a way for Certain People to show their feeling that B5 is a better legacy and recipient of the ST fan's attention than other stuff. Which will annoy a studio out there no end. I'll probably post the new stations tomorrow sometime. Meanwhile, things continue to heat up. Met with the tech boys on Friday to review the script, and they had some WONDERFUL ideas on how to make this even bigger than I'd thought was possible in terms of EFX and some of the action planned for the movie. I'm now in the process of incorporating all of that into the script, which will now be turned in around next Monday, computer hassles permitting. Will also be at the Gallifrey convention at the LA Airport Hilton this Saturday to do a B5 presentation (1-2:30). There's some growing interest and pressure from some involved at the studio/station syndicate level to move faster on the series than was first discussed. This bodes well. We're also fleshing out parts of the B5 station itself from a production standpoing, incorporating as many valid technological issues as we can. One of the problems we encountered with a station that uses centrifugal force to create gravity is that you can't have any windows at waist level, since space is below your feet. Well, our production whiz Ron Thornton came up with a spiffy solution to that which is gonna look neat. Anyway, just a note to let you know that all is proceeding apace, and starting to gather momentum. It's a strange feeling to be in the position of talking about something, of being one of maybe a handful of people who even know the NAME of what you're proposing...and suddenly there are quite literally dozens of people on the phone, and in meetings, talking about it, calling YOU about it, coming in with design elements and publicity strategies and the like...you keep fighting the urge to say, "But how did YOU know about that? That's just something I've created in my head." It's both rewarding and constantly surprising. More info as I can log on here to convey it. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 223 Thu Feb 20, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 01:09 EST Eric: we have to find you a hobby.... Well, boys and girls, Today I Yam a Man. I yanked out the power supply on the old trusty Northgate all by my own self, put in the new one, replugged the ten zillion wires...and it's up and running. Didn't even have to bug the guys at Northgate to do it via phone. And so, with no further ado, a list of some of the additional TV stations that've signed on to carry the B5 movie, and subsequently, Mojo willing and the crick don't rise, the series: WPHL Philadelphia; WSBK Boston; WXON Detroit; WATL Atlanta; WSTW Seattle; KDVR Denver; WOFL Orlando; WTTV Indianapolis; and WVTV Milwaukee. The only NY station that we have to date, that I *know* of, at least (meaning they might've added another and not told me yet) is WWOR. More as I get the completed lists. Meanwhile...I'M BACK ON LINE...and woe to the wicked! jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 225 Thu Feb 20, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 03:15 EST Will look into Memphis and get back to you. Meanwhile, I appreciate the invitation, but it looks like MidSouthCon is out for the time being, due to other committments. Perhaps next time, once we're up and running.... jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 232 Thu Feb 20, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 16:31 EST Steve...just curious, what's the scuttlebutt there about the project? I'm interested to know what the stations are hearing, vs. what we're trying to get across. Rick: we won't be shooting on the Warners lot, but rather off the lot. (More and more shows are doing this now because of the HUGE fees involved -- overhead and the like -- in shooting on the lot. We're now in the process of scouting out some other locations. Since the show is basically a park-and- lock, mainly interiors, you can literally get a large warehouse, gut it, and build your stages there. (And sometimes you can do this and get a LARGER facility, overall, than what you could get at a studio, with the competition there for large stages.) What's also good about shooting off the lot is that, once the movie is finished, if we're on the lot we'd have to strike the set, do a fold and hold, then put it all back up again for the series. The studio can't afford to let a soundstage remain dormant for very long. Here, however, we can just leave the sets standing as long as required. Re: slug or projectile-type weapons of the needler form...the only problem with those is that if you have to use them on a person, you basically shred them to itsy, bitsy pieces...which may be a bit much for television. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 239 Thu Feb 20, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 23:02 EST Marty: KBHK will carry B5 in San Francisco. Steve: We begin rolling film on the B5 movie on June 1st, and we wrap on June 26th, after which we go into post-production. The movie airs November 17th, and the series has several windows in terms of how quickly it goes after that...it could begin as early as the spring, or later in the summer. We have to move *fairly* quickly because the actors' contracts will let us hold them on option for up to 9 months after PRODUCTION is finished, not after the broadcast. So in theory, we should have to begin the series no later than the following February...but that's still open to several factors. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 254 Fri Feb 21, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 23:13 EST For most of the stuff, we'll be shooting and editing on film, though when we have EFX shots, especially when using an overlay of live action, then we'll naturally have to integrate tape into this. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 259 Sat Feb 22, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 02:50 EST Just a reminder to those in the L.A. area...I'll be doing a B5 presentation at Gallifrey 3 at the L.A.X. Hilton from 1-2:30 in Pacific Ballroom B on Saturady afternoon the 22nd. Should start hitting the out-of- state cons in March or thereabouts. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 283 Sun Feb 23, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 03:15 EST Any station can potentially carry B5. Some of those who have signed are, in fact, part of the Fox network. The lines between networks and syndication are growing blurrier by the day. Gave the B5 presentation today to a modest group at Gallifrey Three convention here in town. Went pretty well. My problem is that as I go through the artwork and character stuff, I forget to mention stuff like -- oh - - the airdate, which station is going to be carrying it, that sort of stuff. Tomorrow, with luck, my new computer system arrives. Way cool. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 298 Wed Feb 26, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 00:59 EST Figures. Because we're starting with a movie, we tend to get lost in the shuffle. Regarding the tape...the snow vehicle ain't part of B5; if the space ship you mention is beside a rocky planetoid, then yes, that's ours...if not, it ain't. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 307 Thu Feb 27, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 00:45 EST It's pro forma never to announce more than one phase at a time, so that's why they're concentrating on the movie in terms of PR. You don't start flogging the series until you're in production...just as they didn't start flogging the movie until we hit a point of beginning preproduction, with a firm airdate. No, drat it, my new computer didn't arrive Saturday. The guy who's building it for me was delayed over the weekend out of state. Promised to have it in for me this weekend. I learned that the system I designed for him to build for me is essentially identical to the system being used by the International Bank of Japan. Turned in the next version of the B5 script, with the new Bigger And Better final scene...boy, if this looks *half* as big on screen as we think it might, it's gonna be a hoot. May have some good news to announce soon regarding a big article in a certain magazine...will advise. jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 313 Fri Feb 28, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 03:57 EST ...good heavens, I'm quoted re: TNG? Where? How? And where was the "blight upon the earth" comment? I know I was interviewed by some paper or other about that, but for the life of me I can't recall which. Well, I never said I was subtle.... jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 315 Fri Feb 28, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 13:36 EST Oh, okay, THAT article. I thought since it was a while ago that it wasn't the one mentioned, but rather something new. Okay, thanks. And now for something completely stupid.... While my 386 was down and I was trying to log onto GEnie using my laptop, if y'all recall, I couldn't get on. FINALLY realized that it was because I'd lately changed my password, put it on the macro for my main computer and hadn't changed the one on the notebook...so I was trying to log on under the old password. Sigh...I sometimes I think I haven't got the brains god gave a doorknob.... jms ------------ Category 18, Topic 22 Message 324 Sat Feb 29, 1992 STRACZYNSKI at 04:14 EST No, those times aren't accurate. Our *firm* airdate for the movie is November 17, 1992. That has been agreed upon by all parties, and was part of the announcement in NY the other week. Which means some of the sales guys either aren't getting the latest info, or something's getting distorted/lost in the translation. I'll double back with the Warners distribution people to look into this. We're looking into various forms of making the image of the show technologically different, and some 3D aspect has been considered. The technology is there now for some fairly subtle stuff that doesn't require glasses or anything of the sort. Although the movie is too early, we're giving some thought to shooting the series for HDTV, but again that's well down the road. jms ------------